Re: Life, The Universe, and Everything including smoke
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:12 pm
Teardowns of cheater-cheap versions of these have been done to death on youtube. Dunno what flavor this one was, but...
Believing that of course a solid state relay has to be better than something with moving parts, back at the beginning of lab time when I built the basic system, I used this guy to change that logic level to 120v on/off for that forepump. Not sure what triggered this failure, actually, as it had worked for some years, and so has the rest of the batch of 10 I bought at the same time in various uses (2 control my Volt charger system). This never even got warm in this use that I could tell. Until it obviously got REALLY warm.
My best guess is that vibration eventually loosened the screw...and we had a high contact resistance there - or something similar happened inside, if it had been too cheap from the beginning, I'd think I'd have noticed it getting warm.
Of course, being put in at the very beginning of things, when the setup was far simpler, meant it's now really hard to get to. I had kinda clip-leaded and duct taped in a crummy replacement, but yesterday finally really changed it out to another "real I hope" SSR, which also doesn't get warm in testing. Along with a new battery to turn it on in "manual force on" mode, the old CR123 had worked for some years but...maybe it was the problem, but I doubt it, it had fried overnight while in auto mode - this is the mode my fusor spends almost all it's time in. Slow turbo rotation - around 133 hz (800 something is max) but turning on the forepump when we get to around e-3 mbar - usually when I check it's e-6 or -7 after sitting that way awhile. Saves wear, tear, and electricity, and that tank hasn't been opened for a really long time - I suspect it's really clean in there by now.
The interesting rhetorical question is:
Why did any of us getting into STEM - myself an engineer, then physics, with tech and chemistry along the way - think that this absolved us from having to crawl around in awkward spots showing our butt crack to the sky, aches and pains no extra charge? If it's computers, it was running coax, then catN cable, or digging into a tower under a bench for a VGA cable that got loose. And on and on.
I hear plumbers get paid well for that! And they probably do less of it!
This was running my forepump for the fusor. Basically it was wired so either the turbo controller could activate it whenever the power needed to spin the turbo when past some (programmable) number, and turn it off below some other programmable number - or I could force it on or off manually with a switch. As well as the turbo speed itself being programmable, so that at slower speeds, it takes more gas present to be hard to spin etc. Nice system. But all they gave you was their version of a logic level (24v) and the rest is up to you.Believing that of course a solid state relay has to be better than something with moving parts, back at the beginning of lab time when I built the basic system, I used this guy to change that logic level to 120v on/off for that forepump. Not sure what triggered this failure, actually, as it had worked for some years, and so has the rest of the batch of 10 I bought at the same time in various uses (2 control my Volt charger system). This never even got warm in this use that I could tell. Until it obviously got REALLY warm.
My best guess is that vibration eventually loosened the screw...and we had a high contact resistance there - or something similar happened inside, if it had been too cheap from the beginning, I'd think I'd have noticed it getting warm.
Of course, being put in at the very beginning of things, when the setup was far simpler, meant it's now really hard to get to. I had kinda clip-leaded and duct taped in a crummy replacement, but yesterday finally really changed it out to another "real I hope" SSR, which also doesn't get warm in testing. Along with a new battery to turn it on in "manual force on" mode, the old CR123 had worked for some years but...maybe it was the problem, but I doubt it, it had fried overnight while in auto mode - this is the mode my fusor spends almost all it's time in. Slow turbo rotation - around 133 hz (800 something is max) but turning on the forepump when we get to around e-3 mbar - usually when I check it's e-6 or -7 after sitting that way awhile. Saves wear, tear, and electricity, and that tank hasn't been opened for a really long time - I suspect it's really clean in there by now.
The interesting rhetorical question is:
Why did any of us getting into STEM - myself an engineer, then physics, with tech and chemistry along the way - think that this absolved us from having to crawl around in awkward spots showing our butt crack to the sky, aches and pains no extra charge? If it's computers, it was running coax, then catN cable, or digging into a tower under a bench for a VGA cable that got loose. And on and on.
I hear plumbers get paid well for that! And they probably do less of it!