It appears I'm writing a book here, which wasn't my plan but...why not? If it helps anyone, well, that's what I'm all about. What goes around comes around, and the golden rule IS a description of how the universe works -- how it happens seems like magic sometimes, but hey, it works. Do good, and you'll be rewarded, though as often as not from some unexpected direction.
Second big note -- my lawyer would have kittens if I didn't say something like "don't take my advice, I'm wild-crazy-nuts, and this is educational and entertainment only, don't try this at home, and a bunch of "don't sue me if it doesn't work, and especially if it doesn't work because you didn't do it right and then whine about it, because then he'll not be your pal". Or words to that effect. And more words like "past performance doesn't guarantee future results" and stuff like that. Get it?
This could be utterly off topic on this board, but...maybe not. I'll go by responses, and am posting this here in water cooler because if no one cares, it will simply disappear, and I'll shut up about it all.
Trading is what I do for a living these days, and I seem to be pretty good at it, but....not perfect (don't think anyone is). For example, yesterday (10/19/10), I took a pretty decent hit when China did some surprise things that I couldn't do anything about until our markets opened, and by then it was too late; no, even I am not anal enough to stay up all night and trade overseas markets. That's for heavily leveraged and probably coked-up Forex types one step out of bankruptcy. (try google if any terminology goes past you here, for now)
So, I'm a fallible human -- no surprise there! The thing is, with the right plan(s) you can make money and "beat the markets" despite not having a perfect crystal ball -- and if anyone wants to know how, it turns out we have a couple of people here who can teach - myself and Curtis Faith come to mind. Though I took a big hit for me, a couple percent loss on the amount I was "in", it really wasn't bad compared to what probably happened to most people who aren't "on it", which is one key. Like any other game, you get out of it what you put in, and paying attention is a crazy-big part of that. You will almost always do better than something automated, or "your broker who wants commissions on your business" almost certainly.
As luck (or would that be skill, or maybe laziness?) had it, I had put trailing stops under a lot of the more in-the-money issues I was holding large amounts of, so while the account did lose over the peak of the day before, I automatically sold quite a lot of stocks still "in the green" for well more than I'd paid, just not perfect. Though I lost a little unrealized profit, that was all it was -- still way up on the year and next year's budget is looking good. Risk management is the key, and there are a few approaches to that that work, and at least for me, trailing stops are one of the techniques, but in the presence of flash crashes, not the best one -- think reserve parachute on that, it's a last resort that doesn't always work as you'd hope. Or worse yet, a pilot chute that if loosely deployed, might yank you out the door of a perfectly good airplane.
I am a behaviorist in this game, to me it's all about human emotion, even when there are computers trading too (remember who programs them!), and that theory seems to pan out fairly well when tested daily and minute by minute over the past few years. The truth of the matter boils down to this -- stocks have NO intrinsic value, period. They are worth what someone else will buy them from you for at the time you want to sell, end of story. Some purists will point out that some stocks sometimes pay dividends (at the whim of the company), but that doesn't qualify them for intrinsic value in my eyes. In general, they're worth the bits they are printed on (not even paper any more unless you pay extra for actual certificates, which very few do). So yes, it can be pretty scary to shift large amounts of bucks in and out of something essentially valueless at the philosophic base. On the other hand, it can also be pretty darn exciting to make serious money doing it, and there is that practical aspect -- for the last 5 years or so it's been my only income, and I'm growing principal while taking some out to live on and do physics. Neither my science work or this board would exist without it.
This game is a good one for engineers who have spent a lot of time with scope traces and charts and trade-offs, it's the same "stuff" you need to be good at it. It also often requires control over your own emotions so you can clearly see those of the other players. This is more like poker than roulette -- a good player can win over poor ones even if the dealer is cheating a little, and some of the techniques are pretty similar. You're always looking for the "tells" of the other players, and the more you know about them, the better you do. Technical analysis is a not magic trick and stocks must follow its predictions -- it's that a lot of people think it works, and it is self-fulfilling to a very large degree -- it's a tell on the other players, as are other things you ignore at your peril. Stocks rarely touch what investors call fundamentals, but sometimes revert to them, every so often (usually at crisis points, every few years). So I think most of the various kinds of analysis is junk and bunk, but that doesn't matter if everyone else believes in it and lets it drive their actions. If analysis makes someone think a stock is going up, they buy, and guess what -- supply and demand make it go up! And the vice is versa. That said, I prefer to trade good solid companies and I prefer going long to short. If I get stuck in a good company, I have a better chance of it going up if I just wait, after all. Although I suppose a perfect trader would dump such a trade right off, I'm never trading even close to my cash limits, so I can afford to let things ride sometimes, rather than having to concentrate too much on putting it all on the things going up the quickest right now. Good to mostly be there, of course.
Any engineer looking at these charts will immediately see some patterns. You could almost use a Fourier transform as a predictor, and I'd bet some do. One thing I'd point out that most of the pros don't mention (whether they agree or not, I don't know) is that the basic frequency (not to mention amplitude) of the various swings is highly dependent on the "mood" of the market -- excited or fearful people move quicker, and the cycles shorten, where in calm times you might have long boring stretches of a mostly unidirectional trend with only small variations from a straight line.
Many trading systems only work in certain types of markets, which are normally a trending thing, but not necessarily right now, and recognizing what type of market behavior dominates at any one time is key, in my view. Right now (and for the last good while) it seems people are panicking, and the cycles are shortened over the norm. The time to flip from joy to despair back to joy is pretty short these days, and it helps a lot to be aware of that and adjust your own style accordingly. A lot of people would say, hey, we're in an uptrending market, and with slight pullbacks, have been since about March 9 of last year. But price the markets in gold, or even euros, and you see quite a different picture due to the dollar's spectacular drop (you know, what we accuse the Chinese of doing...).
I'll stop for a second and give Curtis a plug. He's written a few books on trading style that are super good for trending type markets, and they are all worth reading if you are going to venture into any of this, even though he's not specific about some things -- he gives a very good view about how to approach it, instead, which is really what most people need -- how to think versus what to think, which is dated the instant it's written -- his take has more lasting value than that. Once you have that, filling in the details is not so hard at all. I would simply say that in the main, we're more in a trading range market with the odd panic in either direction, which requires different techniques for best success than a trending one does. Further, due to certain interventions by governments, the rules are a bit twisted right now.
The four most dangerous words are "it's different this time" as has been proven quite a few times, but it really is different this time. At no time in history has there been so much government intervention, by so many governments, with so much coordination between them. This is not necessarily a bad thing for a trader, however one feels about it politically. Best to leave the emotion to the guy on the other side of the trade where it clouds his judgment, but not yours. Further, there is this new phenomenon of sovereign wealth funds which may not have the same sort of greed motive as the normal players. (note to self, there are good examples of this I can show)
For a short sample of Curtis' work, check this out: I found this online someplace, so I hope he won't mind me putting it here too (Curtis, you there?). While some of the rules mainly apply to trending markets, the super excellent risk management rules here always apply, or so it seems to me. I don't always follow them (to my peril) but they work when I do. As he says, publishing the "secrets" is safe, because most humans can't or won't stick to the rules, and this is not a case where you can choose one from this, one from that, in general and do well. Along with another one by William O'Neill, which basically goes like this -- cut your losses brutally, but let profits run. For example, if you limit your losses on a trade to at most X percent, and take money off the table at 2.5 to 3x that percent, even a person who only calls 50% of their trades right makes good money -- work it out. And with a little experience, many get to the high 80% range of calling them right. I'm in the 70's myself after a little practice. In a more normal uptrending market, you'd always cut losses to 8% max, and take the money and run at about triple that gain. We are not in a normal market right now though, and I am using tighter numbers at the moment. In no case should you ever violate that -- no trade should ever lose more than 8%, and these days, I cut that closer to 4%.
Everyone is free to develop their own style at this, and I can of course only describe mine, so here goes.
- I do my homework, which is most of the work. Most of that is updating my watch lists, analysis, and updating the list of things I will trade in.
- I don't do leverage, options, or anything real tweaky or dangerous. Bulls do well, bears do well, pigs get slaughtered.
- I use risk management.
- I trade high beta stocks, that have a lot of motion -- the trick there is just being on the right side of any big move either way. Motion is money, so I crave motion.
- I trade only a few stocks, ones I've been able to get familiar with the behavior that the other players at the table exhibit.
- I watch more stocks than I trade, as there are ripple effects, and most stocks have some correlation with the market as a whole. So even though I don't trade tech much (for a few reasons I'll mention later or in response to questions) I do watch it.
- I make plan A, plan B and so on, and am ready to make plan C and execute it on a moments notice, because whatever I think, the ticker is the truth, and it doesn't respond to what I think will happen one bit, doesn't care about my emotions, and so on. Many people over-think things. Heck, with not much analysis, we can all see where things are going long term, and there's a lot of agreement among the pros on that, but as someone said, the markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent if you depend on them being rational, efficient, free, or any other religious term.
So you might take some obvious bad signs long term with a grain of salt (but it's good to track them), and simply make hay while the sun shines, which is my approach. By the time the long term hammer drops, I'll have been in and out of trades hundreds of times anyway, and have been adjusting my style as the market changes. - I cut my losses ruthlessly, and let my gains run. There are a few ways to get this cat skinned, which I can elaborate on further.
Now, there are about three kinds of styles as defined by time-in-trade.
- Buy and hold - long pushed as the best way (especially by people who sell things they don't want you to get out of, because you might get wise and not get back in with them) but actually dead for the last decade at least. How was it not smart to sell when things started tanking in the last crash, and then buy back in much cheaper later? Puleese.
- Swing trading -- positions from days to months, which is what I mainly do. Also what most big boys do, and sometimes called active trading.
- Day trading -- in and out sometimes in minutes. Good for ADD types I suppose. Lots of little gains unless you use dangerous amounts of leverage. Sometimes a last resort. Even a swing trader might enter a position to find out almost right off he called it dead wrong. Might be wise to admit the mistake and get right back out at that point. Or you called it so right you made "too good to be true" gains -- and if they are that good, why not get out and put the money back in the mattress? You'll probably get a pullback to buy in again after a little mean reversion if it really was too good to be true, if that's what you want to do at that point. But no one ever got broke banking their profits.
This is more often than not a "hurry up and wait" kind of game, where you watch a lot, but don't do that much. If something major happens, you might do well to make a quick move to take advantage of it, but usually you just pay attention and wait. Kind of like being deployed in harm's way, it's mostly boring....with intervals of extreme excitement in there.
Doing the right thing at the right time is key, duh, in many fields, and very much so in this one. He who is lost, hesitates.
Imagine a stock that doubles over say, two years, as some did before the latest crash (POT for example). Well, in that case you'd have done pretty well with "buy and hold" if you'd been paying attention during a few key days at the start of the crash and sold before all your gains evaporated. But during that doubling, those stocks had periods of very fast gains, interspersed with pullbacks and flat spots. Had you bought the dips, and sold the peaks, you'd have quadrupled your money at the very least, and that only calling the moves with fair accuracy, simply sitting out when you weren't seeing what you wanted to see, or putting the money elsewhere where the timing was right for that. This is what I do, and to me, it matters very little what the underlying trend actually is.
Curtis uses a different plan, which works for him and his temperament. That's one of the things that make this cool, actually. There's more than one way that works, or as perl programmers say, TMTOWTDI. As I think he'd say, if we all did this the same, there'd be no successful trades for anybody. There is always a buyer for every seller, or the other way 'round, which means by definition you're not on the same plan.
One of the ploys that's working well just now for me is mean reversion. The idea is that some issues jump up, or get hammered unfairly, then revert to the underlying trend. If you take time to get real familiar with a few, and watch for spoilers (like news events that may have more lasting effects) you can make a lot of hay on that one. In fact, I did today, on some that got clobbered for no good reason in that huge drop mentioned above. When the emotional types came to their senses, they bought back in, right after me, and drove the prices back up again.
This works especially well in the current conditions, where emotional traders over react and then recant. Think frightened 7th graders and you'd be pretty close to the other guys at the table right now.
Yes, the dealer cheats, the markets are now and have been manipulated. So? Poker is gambling to be sure, but do you really think that in that imaginary world (The Gambler series) that Kenny Rogers was actually gambling when he sat down at a table with the rubes? He didn't have to cheat to win, either -- he just knew how to play better than they, and how to tell when they thought they had a good or bad hand.
In fact, one ace trick is to know how to recognize the cheating and manipulations (worth a post or few) and ride along. We little guys have a huge advantage over the big boys in that, as we can toss it all into something and not move the price diddly -- we can be fast. Try that with billions -- you can't do it -- you drive up the price of the thing you're trying to "buy low". But you can watch them try, and get a free ride.
Note that you cannot do most of what I'll describe through a human broker or wire house unless you want to spend all day on the phone. You'd have to have a computer trading account that lets you pull the trigger quick when the aim is just so. You don't have to be there every second, or be superman-fast, just not wait half hours between deciding and action.
Most of the stocks I play with move on the order of a couple to a few percent per day, and most often do that in either the first few or last few minutes of the trading day (not always but often). That means if you call a good percentage of trades right, you can make a few percent on every trade, every couple days. That adds up nicely over a year of trading...
I rarely get a "day trade" flag, and then only if I make a bad call, and it's pretty obvious right off or ten minutes later, and the wisest thing to do is admit I blew it and get back out, take my whippin' (about 20 bucks worth of commission plus what I lost calling it wrong, maybe a percent or at most two). Understand, if you are there and paying attention, it's never smart to wait and see -- if it's going wrong badly, get the heck out -- you can get back in soon enough, because you're paying attention and won't miss the next turn. Fund managers that say you'll never get back in right are just telling a self serving outright lie, in most cases (some people have emotions such that once burned, they can't make themselves stay in the game, for them its not a lie, but they shouldn't be doing this if that's the case). The only advantage they really have these days is it's not their money, so they can watch big red numbers build up and not care. With only a little discipline, so can you, and no one cares about your hard earned bucks more, so why not do it yourself and get it right?